To continue yesterday's mentations on CCN's doc., God's Warriors.
Well if they are not God's than whose are they?...and that would be Israel's, Palestine's, Syria's, Iraq's, Egypt's, Iran's, Saudi Arabia's...I can't recall them all.
If they are God's warriors than these are God's nations, and I dont know, the contemplation of it makes me dizzy.
America's soldiers are America's. Separation of Church and State.
But there's a peculiar wrinkle to that if one turns to Pat Robertson's news channel. Last night it was the last one I watched, and I got suspended while he did a prayer...seemed rude to channel click then...but when the telephone number came up off I went!
Anyway, awhile back he brought up the story of an early pioneer settler, like back in the Pilgrim's time, who announced that the purpose of the colonists was to bring Christianity to the new world, and eventually all the world. He had a manifesto of sorts, and Robertson has it printed up as a show piece document that the viewer can acquire...the phone number again.
Well if they are not God's than whose are they?...and that would be Israel's, Palestine's, Syria's, Iraq's, Egypt's, Iran's, Saudi Arabia's...I can't recall them all.
If they are God's warriors than these are God's nations, and I dont know, the contemplation of it makes me dizzy.
America's soldiers are America's. Separation of Church and State.
But there's a peculiar wrinkle to that if one turns to Pat Robertson's news channel. Last night it was the last one I watched, and I got suspended while he did a prayer...seemed rude to channel click then...but when the telephone number came up off I went!
Anyway, awhile back he brought up the story of an early pioneer settler, like back in the Pilgrim's time, who announced that the purpose of the colonists was to bring Christianity to the new world, and eventually all the world. He had a manifesto of sorts, and Robertson has it printed up as a show piece document that the viewer can acquire...the phone number again.
(From these shores the Gospel will go forth to the New World, and to all the world. R0bert Hunt, chaplain of Jamestown...form CBN site...)
http://www.cbn.com/special/spiritualroots/
My take on this is that Robertson works towards the eventuality of America championing Christianity, and while it wasn't said, the impression I had was that the war in Iraq has the channels support because it furthers this effort.
In thinking on this today I recalled the medieval Japanese soldiers that wore their clans flag on their back when they went into battle. If they lost, and survived...they took their flag out and put the victors in. I think I have that right.
I regard the phrase "christian soldiers" as an oxymoron too...though the song says "as to war". Oxymoron is such an ugly word...and to express the idea further I'm just going to use 'paradoxical'.
It is paradoxical that God's nation's warriors would fight one another.
Constantine turned old Rome to Christianity with the force of arms, (recalled on the CNN show) and a lot of that has gone on in history, but that's not Christianity.
Children grow up in America not knowing it was taken from the indigenous people, the Indians, and when that's learned it's kindofa shock, especially if you are an Indian. Somewhat like what a Black kid experiences regarding slavery.
The history of Christianity has the same sort of unpleasantness.
But what can you do?...Every nation seems to have been founded in bloodshed, and stolen from a predecessor. In like fashion the House of Saud came to power in Saudi Arabia. And the founding of Israel, modern and old!!
Live by the sword, die by the sword.
It was the sword that converted my Scandinavian ancestors, who were no slouch with swords!!
But anyway, Graves tried to focus the whole thing into a patriarchal priesthood conspiracy, and looked to a time when the White Goddess would return. Which is why he gets picked up by Wiccans and the like.
I suppose I could be categorized as a pagan christian...a fine paradox!!
Throw in american, and there you have it...Dont tread on me.
Animal Planet was on...lots of birds and seals and penguins and whales...and a sound track from a B Western...sigh...then Cash Cab...that's a cool show...
quote from Ben Franklin...I saw my first adult rattlesnake on the Tuolumne Canyon hike...wild one that is...
I recollected that her eye excelled in brightness, that of any other animal, and that she has no eye-lids—She may therefore be esteemed an emblem of vigilance.—She never begins an attack, nor, when once engaged, ever surrenders: She is therefore an emblem of magnanimity and true courage.—As if anxious to prevent all pretentions of quarrelling with her, the weapons with which nature has furnished her, she conceals in the roof of her mouth, so that, to those who are unacquainted with her, she appears to be a most defenceless animal; and even when those weapons are shewn and extended for her defence, they appear weak and contemptible; but their wounds however small, are decisive and fatal:—Conscious of this, she never wounds till she has generously given notice, even to her enemy, and cautioned him against the danger of treading on her.—Was I wrong, Sir, in thinking this a strong picture of the temper and conduct of America?
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No Ben, well said....
from wiki
DavidDavid
Tree in the Door
August 22, 2007
My take on this is that Robertson works towards the eventuality of America championing Christianity, and while it wasn't said, the impression I had was that the war in Iraq has the channels support because it furthers this effort.
In thinking on this today I recalled the medieval Japanese soldiers that wore their clans flag on their back when they went into battle. If they lost, and survived...they took their flag out and put the victors in. I think I have that right.
I regard the phrase "christian soldiers" as an oxymoron too...though the song says "as to war". Oxymoron is such an ugly word...and to express the idea further I'm just going to use 'paradoxical'.
It is paradoxical that God's nation's warriors would fight one another.
Constantine turned old Rome to Christianity with the force of arms, (recalled on the CNN show) and a lot of that has gone on in history, but that's not Christianity.
Children grow up in America not knowing it was taken from the indigenous people, the Indians, and when that's learned it's kindofa shock, especially if you are an Indian. Somewhat like what a Black kid experiences regarding slavery.
The history of Christianity has the same sort of unpleasantness.
But what can you do?...Every nation seems to have been founded in bloodshed, and stolen from a predecessor. In like fashion the House of Saud came to power in Saudi Arabia. And the founding of Israel, modern and old!!
Live by the sword, die by the sword.
It was the sword that converted my Scandinavian ancestors, who were no slouch with swords!!
But anyway, Graves tried to focus the whole thing into a patriarchal priesthood conspiracy, and looked to a time when the White Goddess would return. Which is why he gets picked up by Wiccans and the like.
I suppose I could be categorized as a pagan christian...a fine paradox!!
Throw in american, and there you have it...Dont tread on me.
Animal Planet was on...lots of birds and seals and penguins and whales...and a sound track from a B Western...sigh...then Cash Cab...that's a cool show...
quote from Ben Franklin...I saw my first adult rattlesnake on the Tuolumne Canyon hike...wild one that is...
I recollected that her eye excelled in brightness, that of any other animal, and that she has no eye-lids—She may therefore be esteemed an emblem of vigilance.—She never begins an attack, nor, when once engaged, ever surrenders: She is therefore an emblem of magnanimity and true courage.—As if anxious to prevent all pretentions of quarrelling with her, the weapons with which nature has furnished her, she conceals in the roof of her mouth, so that, to those who are unacquainted with her, she appears to be a most defenceless animal; and even when those weapons are shewn and extended for her defence, they appear weak and contemptible; but their wounds however small, are decisive and fatal:—Conscious of this, she never wounds till she has generously given notice, even to her enemy, and cautioned him against the danger of treading on her.—Was I wrong, Sir, in thinking this a strong picture of the temper and conduct of America?
unquote
No Ben, well said....
from wiki
DavidDavid
Tree in the Door
August 22, 2007
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