The Pool of Bethesda has caught my interest...not so much for the story of Jesus there..but the Sheep...I had a pet sheep...and the pool was where they were washed and purified for sacrifice...which seems pretty pagan!...and insomuch as I've thought to look up animal sacrifice by the Ancients...well..brb...the sacrifices have a name...Korban...and wikipedia a page on it...and it has that some of the Prophets...Isaiah, Jeremiah...spoke out against it..or at least insincerity....I suspect it all became an excuse for feasting on donated offerings from the public for the Priesthood...
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With what shall I approach the Lord,
Do homage to God on high?
Shall I approach Him with burnt offerings,
With calves a year old?
Would the Lord be pleased with thousands of rams,
With myriads of streams of oil?
Shall I give my firstborn for my transgression,
The fruit of my body for my sins?
Man has told you what is good.
But what does the Lord require of you?
Only to do justice
And to love goodness,
And to walk humbly with your God (Micah 6:6-8).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korban
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And other ancient cultures did this...and that bit about firstborns is ominous!..brb...
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Maimonides concludes that God's decision to allow sacrifices was a concession to human psychological limitations. It would have been too much to have expected the Israelites to leap from pagan worship to prayer and meditation in one step. In his Guide to the Perplexed he writes:
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For goodness sake...that there even is such a book!...brb...
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A noted verse in the Book of Psalms says "...But for your [God's] sake are we killed all the day; we are considered like sheep for the slaughter. " (Psalms 44:23) [12]. The image of Jews going like "sheep to the slaughter" has been used as the metaphor for both Jewish powerlessness as well as absolute fealty by them to their God. The death of people martyred for their faith was deemed to be the equivalent of sacrifices in the ancient Temples and hence the nomenclature utilized is the same as well. The word "Holocaust" derives from the Greek term for a "completely burnt" (olah) offering.
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well...this is difficult...in my thoughts is the refrain "ultimate sacrifice" which is so common in the memorials for fallen soldiers in the IraqAfghan conflict...
and do note that sheep are really really sheep like!
Caribou are on in America's last untouched wilderness...it's about oil drilling...
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The Messiah's death was to be the atoning sacrifice for the entire world, thereby invalidating the need for the old system of animal sacrifice (Heb. 10:1-18). See Isaiah 53
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lemego see that passage in Isaiah...well..that's a quarrel!...brb
Viking raiding now...
Here's a bit on the word Holocaust and it's history...it refers to completely burned animal sacrifices...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_%28sacrifice%29
And here's wikis page on Animal Sacrifice...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_sacrifice
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Walter Burkert in Homo necans argues that animal sacrifices reenact paleolithic hunting rituals, and that they are fundamentally identical in motivation to human sacrifices.
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brb...
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Adam von Bremen recorded human sacrifices to Odin in 11th century Sweden, at the Temple at Uppsala, a tradition which is confirmed by Gesta Danorum and the Norse sagas. According to the Ynglinga saga, king Domalde was sacrificed there in the hope to bring greater future harvests and the total domination of all future wars. The same saga also relates that Domalde's descendant king Aun sacrificed nine of his own sons to Odin in exchange for longer life, until the Swedes stopped him from sacrificing his last son, Egil
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_sacrifices
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Well...a grim thing to contemplate!...but somewhere back in the Neolithic it got started...animal human...sometimes just treasure buried with the dead...and it's one of those "preservation rituals and ceremony"...but what ever it accomplished, aside an excuse for a horrific entertainment...and a feast...is lost...and just as well!
Secrets of the Viking Warriors is what's on on Nat Geo...
pic of Sheep Pools from here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:P8170051.JPG
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With what shall I approach the Lord,
Do homage to God on high?
Shall I approach Him with burnt offerings,
With calves a year old?
Would the Lord be pleased with thousands of rams,
With myriads of streams of oil?
Shall I give my firstborn for my transgression,
The fruit of my body for my sins?
Man has told you what is good.
But what does the Lord require of you?
Only to do justice
And to love goodness,
And to walk humbly with your God (Micah 6:6-8).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korban
unquote
And other ancient cultures did this...and that bit about firstborns is ominous!..brb...
quote
Maimonides concludes that God's decision to allow sacrifices was a concession to human psychological limitations. It would have been too much to have expected the Israelites to leap from pagan worship to prayer and meditation in one step. In his Guide to the Perplexed he writes:
unquote
For goodness sake...that there even is such a book!...brb...
quote
A noted verse in the Book of Psalms says "...But for your [God's] sake are we killed all the day; we are considered like sheep for the slaughter. " (Psalms 44:23) [12]. The image of Jews going like "sheep to the slaughter" has been used as the metaphor for both Jewish powerlessness as well as absolute fealty by them to their God. The death of people martyred for their faith was deemed to be the equivalent of sacrifices in the ancient Temples and hence the nomenclature utilized is the same as well. The word "Holocaust" derives from the Greek term for a "completely burnt" (olah) offering.
unquote
well...this is difficult...in my thoughts is the refrain "ultimate sacrifice" which is so common in the memorials for fallen soldiers in the IraqAfghan conflict...
and do note that sheep are really really sheep like!
Caribou are on in America's last untouched wilderness...it's about oil drilling...
quote
The Messiah's death was to be the atoning sacrifice for the entire world, thereby invalidating the need for the old system of animal sacrifice (Heb. 10:1-18). See Isaiah 53
unquote
lemego see that passage in Isaiah...well..that's a quarrel!...brb
Viking raiding now...
Here's a bit on the word Holocaust and it's history...it refers to completely burned animal sacrifices...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_%28sacrifice%29
And here's wikis page on Animal Sacrifice...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_sacrifice
quote
Walter Burkert in Homo necans argues that animal sacrifices reenact paleolithic hunting rituals, and that they are fundamentally identical in motivation to human sacrifices.
unquote
brb...
quote
Adam von Bremen recorded human sacrifices to Odin in 11th century Sweden, at the Temple at Uppsala, a tradition which is confirmed by Gesta Danorum and the Norse sagas. According to the Ynglinga saga, king Domalde was sacrificed there in the hope to bring greater future harvests and the total domination of all future wars. The same saga also relates that Domalde's descendant king Aun sacrificed nine of his own sons to Odin in exchange for longer life, until the Swedes stopped him from sacrificing his last son, Egil
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_sacrifices
unquote
Well...a grim thing to contemplate!...but somewhere back in the Neolithic it got started...animal human...sometimes just treasure buried with the dead...and it's one of those "preservation rituals and ceremony"...but what ever it accomplished, aside an excuse for a horrific entertainment...and a feast...is lost...and just as well!
Secrets of the Viking Warriors is what's on on Nat Geo...
pic of Sheep Pools from here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:P8170051.JPG
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